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DENT, E. W.; BAAS, P. W. \u795e\u7ecf\u5143\u4e2d\u4f5c\u4e3a\u4fe1\u606f\u8f7d\u4f53\u7684\u5fae\u7ba1\u3002 \u795e\u7ecf\u5316\u5b66\u6742\u5fd7\u300b\uff08Journal of neurochemistry<\/strong>, v. 129, n. 2, p. 235-239, abr.2014.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

HAMEROFF, S.; PENROSE, R. Consciousness in the universe:\u5bf9 \"Orch OR \"\u7406\u8bba\u7684\u56de\u987e\u3002 \u751f\u547d\u7684\u7269\u7406\u5b66\u300b\u8bc4\u8bba<\/strong>, v. 11, n. 1, p. 39-78, 1 mar.2014.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

PENROSE, R.; LANDAUER, R. The Emperor's New Mind:\u5173\u4e8e\u8ba1\u7b97\u673a\u3001\u601d\u60f3\u548c\u7269\u7406\u5b9a\u5f8b\u3002 \u4eca\u65e5\u7269\u7406\u5b66<\/strong>, v. 43, n. 6, p. 73, 11 jan. 2008.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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